tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19649274.post114964605895384601..comments2024-03-29T12:03:50.891+05:30Comments on The Leap Blog: Entry barriers in higher educationAjay Shahhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03835842741008200034noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19649274.post-1167919682929536962007-01-04T19:38:00.000+05:302007-01-04T19:38:00.000+05:30i'm not sure about the barriers to educational ent...i'm not sure about the barriers to educational entry. There are BBA/MCA colleges at almost every nukkad in north india. It does not mean this is a bad thing. However the quality of education in India leaves a lot to be desired. An indicator of that is the low rankings (if at all) from Indian universities in filing patents and research papers.jai hanumanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12333747248023611898noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19649274.post-1155481195981609642006-08-13T20:29:00.000+05:302006-08-13T20:29:00.000+05:30Oops, my appologies! JDH stands for Jodhpur.Oops, my appologies! JDH stands for Jodhpur.Ravi Purohithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17616076999283569192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19649274.post-1155473741373564502006-08-13T18:25:00.000+05:302006-08-13T18:25:00.000+05:30Ravi, most readers here don't know what the shortf...Ravi, most readers here don't know what the shortform "JDH" stands for :-)<BR/><BR/>Yes, I agree: ICSE and CBSE has much better curriculum development as compared with our SSC/HSC in Maharashtra. I believe it's a big factor impeding the success of students from Maharashtra at the IIT entrance.Ajay Shahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03835842741008200034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19649274.post-1155472189646001872006-08-13T17:59:00.000+05:302006-08-13T17:59:00.000+05:30Hi Sir, CBSE course material for maths is indeed v...Hi Sir, <BR/><BR/>CBSE course material for maths is indeed very good. I was in JDH this week. Got hold of the NCERT books for standard XII and they are quite impressive. They have separate sections for use of calculus in economics and finance with a good number of solved examples and problems. Students who have solved these books are pretty much there to solve the T&F. <BR/><BR/>I wish the Mah. Board wakes up sooner than later....and improves its curiculum. We need more than just the good old Chitale & Joshi.Ravi Purohithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17616076999283569192noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19649274.post-1149835711059491222006-06-09T12:18:00.000+05:302006-06-09T12:18:00.000+05:30Chandra, I define "conservative" as a person who w...Chandra, I define "conservative" as a person who wants the world to stay as it is. I know, there are a few alternative definitions. I apologise if it looked odd vis-a-vis yours. :-)<BR/><BR/>FDI allowed in education: This does not take into account the control raj that's run by the Ministry of HRD.<BR/><BR/>Shrikanth: I believe the market size with top quality students coming out of the 12th standard is <B>huge</B>, and here's why. At one level, of the 200,000 odd people who take the IIT entrance exam (the JEE), my guess is that atleast 50,000 of them are actually excellent students by world standards. The second aspect is CBSE and ICSE, which have pretty challenging material e.g. in mathematics. I think that anyone who gets > 75% in mathematics at CBSE or ICSE is a very very good student by the standards of high school in the US!<BR/><BR/>The government isn't winning on elementary education. But it is getting <I>de facto</I> privatised. There is a mushrooming of private education: private schools + coaching classes + tutors. As long as the exams are brutally challenging, the pressure on parents and students drives them to find a good education even if the government doesn't figure out how to run schools. In contrast, this process hasn't begun with higher education, thanks to the entry barriers run by Ministry of HRD.<BR/><BR/>On the issue of schools caring about who they recruit - while a seller of watches does not - I think this changes things but not fundamentally so. In addition to treating a student as a paying customer, a school knows that good students have an impact on reputation and peerage. This gives schools an incentive to seek out good students, going all the way to giving out tuition discounts or even scholarships to good students. The bottom line remains that in a well run country, there is brutal competition between universities - and this is what we have failed to create in India. In a well run country, universities <I>compete</I> for everything: they compete to attract good faculty, get good students, get donations, get research contracts, etc. Out of this competition comes quality. In India, all aspects of this competition have been killed off.Ajay Shahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03835842741008200034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19649274.post-1149693940410734242006-06-07T20:55:00.000+05:302006-06-07T20:55:00.000+05:30With respect to your HMT analogy -When it comes to...With respect to your HMT analogy -<BR/>When it comes to watches, private companies don't care a damn as to who buys the watches.<BR/>In contrast, world-class private educational institutions do care about the kind of students who buy the product from them. As a result of this qualification, the size of the market they can potentially target undergoes considerable diminution.<BR/><BR/>Hence, to suggest that the bureaucratic rigmarole is the only deterrent for private universities, is probably not accurate.<BR/><BR/>PS : Please point out if I've got it wrong.shrikanthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03898755392584822638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19649274.post-1149693334018460892006-06-07T20:45:00.000+05:302006-06-07T20:45:00.000+05:30A few doubts -Is there sufficient incentive for th...A few doubts -<BR/>Is there sufficient incentive for the likes of Harvard/Stanford to set up campuses in India?<BR/>In a country where the school drop-out rate is as high as 94%, the quality of aspiring engineering undergraduate students for instance is abysmal if one were to look beyond the IIT's/NIT's and a handful of other institutes. Hence, I don't think there's a large enough market for the world-class universities to establish institutes in India with large intakes.<BR/><BR/>The supply-side constraint in higher education is not as debilitating in its adverse impact as you make it out to be. The real problem rests with inability of the govt to ensure universal primary education to all sections of society.shrikanthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03898755392584822638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19649274.post-1149692198837643202006-06-07T20:26:00.000+05:302006-06-07T20:26:00.000+05:30I found this in this education blog: http://prayat...I found this in this education blog: <BR/>http://prayatna.typepad.com/education/<BR/><BR/>Foreign Direct Investment allowed in education in India: Questions in the Lok Sabha<BR/><BR/>LOK SABHA STARRED QUESTION NO 11 (answered on March 01, 2005)<BR/><BR/> 11. SHRI GURUDAS DAS GUPTA, SAMBASIVA RAYAPATI RAO<BR/><BR/> Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state:-<BR/><BR/> (a) whether the Government is considering a proposal for allowing foreign investments in the field of higher education;<BR/><BR/> (b) if so, the details thereof;<BR/><BR/> (c) whether the Government had had a detailed consultations with all stake holders before taking any final decision in the matter; and<BR/><BR/> (d) if so, the details thereof?<BR/><BR/> ANSWER<BR/><BR/> MINISTER OF HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SHRI ARJUN SINGH)<BR/><BR/> (a) & (b): Foreign Direct Investment (FDI) in education, including higher education, is already being allowed under the automatic route, without any sectoral cap, since February, 2000, vide Order No.7(4)/2000-IP dated 11 February, 2000, issued by the Department of Industrial Policy & Promotion.<BR/><BR/> (c) & (d): Do not arise. <BR/><BR/>A subsequent question on the same issue - LOK SABHA STARRED QUESTION NO 11 was answered on February 21, 2006.<BR/><BR/> 303. SHRI ANANTRAO GUDHE, M. APPADURAI<BR/><BR/> Will the Minister of HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT be pleased to state:-<BR/><BR/> (a) whether the Government has decided to permit Foreign Direct Investment (FDI) in education sector, particularly elementary and primary education;<BR/><BR/> (b) if so, the details thereof;<BR/><BR/> (c) the details of the FDI proposals approved and the proposals which are at an advanced stage of approval;<BR/><BR/> (d) whether any policy guidelines have been formulated in this regard;<BR/><BR/> (e) if so, the details thereof; and<BR/><BR/> (f) the extent to which FDI is likely to improve the education sector?<BR/><BR/> ANSWER<BR/><BR/> MINISTER OF STATE IN THE MINISTRY OF HUMAN RESOURCE DEVELOPMENT (SMT. D. PURANDESWARI)<BR/><BR/> (a) & (b): There is no separate sectoral policy notified for education sector. By virtue of Press Note 2(2000 Series), FDI up to 100% is allowed on automatic route in the Education Sector. In the recent review of policy notified vide Press Note 4 (2006 Series) there is no change in the policy for education sector. In addition, as indicated in the same Press Note No.2(2000 series), the investor may choose to make an application direct to the Foreign Investment Promotion Board (FIPB) without availing the automatic route.<BR/><BR/> (c):Information is being collected and will be laid on the table of the House.<BR/><BR/>I wonder if details of the FDI proposals approved and the proposals at an advanced stage of approval have already been laid on the table of the House. Should be interesting to see what this reveals.<BR/><BR/> (d): No, Sir.<BR/><BR/> (e): Does not arise.<BR/><BR/> (f): Experience with FDI in education is recent and no serious analysis has been made of the data available.<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>If we are looking at MIT, Harvard etc. to enter India, I guess the current policy (as reflected in the above answers) allows it..It is another matter that these universities may not decide to enter given the current policies wrt educational/academic autonomy..Free Thinkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03724960238076985720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19649274.post-1149662651598524482006-06-07T12:14:00.000+05:302006-06-07T12:14:00.000+05:30Good column with apt comparison.I am surprise you ...Good column with apt comparison.<BR/><BR/>I am surprise you call the people who don't want free markets as conservatives. I am one and I think free markets are the norm, i.e. Indian economic tradition, not the exception (we all heard of and read about Tugluk). Government control over all aspects of economy, which has been the exception (for the past four decades), is the left-wing socialist idea - the opposite of conservatives. Just thought I should defend my cause for tradition. :)Chandrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04763671243428875888noreply@blogger.com